Fifteen Year Old Girl Stabs, Strangles, and Slits the Throat of a Nine Year Old Girl.

When 9 year old Elizabeth Olten disappeared while walking home from a friends house around dinner time, a massive search got underway. For two days the police searched St. Martins, Missouri wooded areas to only to produce nothing.

Two days into the search the police received a hand written note that led them to the killer. The killer was not a registered sex offender or man just let out of jail. The killer wasn't even a man that neighbors called quiet. The person who killed 9 year old Elizabeth Olten was a 15 year old girl.

I watched it on the news yesterday, and when they asked the fifteen year old why she did it, she simply said, "I wanted to see what it was like to kill someone."

They also showed a video of the fifteen year old girl shocking herself on purpose on an electrical fence, leading to possible belief that she may be psychotic or mentally ill.

I'm posting this because this is . . . . Wow. It's a shocker. You definitely don't hear a murder case like this every day.

What do you think about this? Should she be tried as an adult or a child? Do you think she's ill, or just a very screwed up person?

Edit: Link.

She obviously has some mental issues. I don't think any person could do something like that and act like she did afterwards, without some mental disability at hand.

I don't think she should be tried as an adult though. She isn't an adult and trying children as adults based on the shock effect of the crime has been one of the most ridiculous things I've heard about. If anything, she should be subjected to some professional help.

I was wondering though, you don't happen to have a link or something? Or something for the people to be able to further investigate the thread? Like a name or something one can google. Just asking.

I posted the link. . Thanks.

That's horrible, she's definitely got some mental issues. I heard a similar story about a seventeen year-old boy who killed his little brother just to see what it was like to kill someone.

Okay the girl has mental issues for sure. Only a crazy person would want to see what it is like to kill someone. Should she be tried as an adult? Yes, she could possibly be mental but as Sydney (thisdissaperinggirl.) told me she is old enough to know better. She should be getting some help and going to jail... prison... some kind of punishment is necessary.

This world is so messed up... I don't know if she should be tried as an adult or not. Part of me says yes and the other part says that she's just a year younger than me. I bet the parents and lawyer will try to plead that she did it because she was mentally ill.

She has some issues with sanity, that's for sure. I think she should go into a mental institute instead of prison because...well, she is young.

It depends on if she's a psychopath. If she's a psychopath, she shouldn't ever get out of wherever she goes because she will kill again.

The thing that saddens me is that she killed a five year old girl just to know what it felt like.

She coupld of killed an animal or something but I guess you don't get as much satisfaction.

That is just...

what has this world come to where a human life doesn't matter anymore?

A prison is no place for someone like her, it's obvious she needs proper help at a mental institution. Prison for life wouldn't help her all, she needs professional care.

While it shocks me that she would do something like this, and I feel the greatest sympathy for the 9 year old girl, I also feel sorry for the teenager, she must have had some sort of mental issues and I hope they will put her in an institution, so she can recieve help from people that can treat her properly.

I think she deserves to be tried as an adult.

I don't think she has mental problems, I think she's just a bad little seed that thinks she's depressed and everyone should feel bad for her. From the pictures I've seen from her, she has nice clothes, nice hair, she's obviously not poor or anything and probably has a good family life. I think she's just a horrible teenager.

thedisappearinggirl.:

I think she deserves to be tried as an adult.

I don't think she has mental problems, I think she's just a bad little seed that thinks she's depressed and everyone should feel bad for her. From the pictures I've seen from her, she has nice clothes, nice hair, she's obviously not poor or anything and probably has a good family life. I think she's just a horrible teenager.

Poverty is not a requirement for mental disorders, neither are bad looks or broken homes. Take Virginia Woolf, for example. She was a successful writer, married to a man who loved her and she wasn't poor either, still she had a mental disorder and ended up killing herself. Or look at Scott Fitzgerald's wife, Zelda. She was famed for her beauty and quite well off, yet she was schizophrenic and if I remember it well tried to take her own life a few times. Those are just a few examples, you'd be surprised at how many rich pretty people with good families attempted suicide.

Now, Alyssa Bustamante didn't just think she was depressed and expected people to feel sorry for her. She attempted suicide when she was 13 and since then received medical help for her condition, she was diagnosed with it by professionals. But maybe you know more than doctors do about depression.

thedisappearinggirl.:

I think she deserves to be tried as an adult.

I don't think she has mental problems, I think she's just a bad little seed that thinks she's depressed and everyone should feel bad for her. From the pictures I've seen from her, she has nice clothes, nice hair, she's obviously not poor or anything and probably has a good family life. I think she's just a horrible teenager.

Have you heard about Mary Bell? She killed two little boys when she was ten/eleven and she had nice clothes, nice hair, obviously wasn't poor but didn't have a good family life. The article doesn't say anything about Alyssa Bustamante's family life so we don't know whether or not she does have a good one or not.

I think you have to have mental problems to kill someone just to "know what it feels like". I don't think a sane person would do it. It takes a severe lack of moral stamina.

Obviously she needs help. When I went to a partial program for children and adolescents who are either mentally ill or addicted to drugs, there were a few kids there who were in because they had homicidal thoughts or done violent things.That kind of stuff is treated exactly the same as suicidal thoughts or actions. Many of the people in there admitted that they would have ended up killing someone had they not gotten counseling and such of the like.

Still, it blows my mind that anyone has the capacity to do that. Let alone a fifteen year old girl.

I know that those things don't require you to not have mental disorders. I'm not stupid. I have a fucking cousin who tried to kill her mother and brother, and she had no mental issues. Never diagnosed! She just has no morals.

And I also don't think she should go to a mental institution then be let out instead of going to freaking prison. I've known people who have had needed to go to institutions for "mental" help, were released, and it did absolutely nothing. For all you know, she could be let out and then go kill someone else. Murder deserves prison. If this nine year old girl were your friend, or your sister, or your relative, would you be okay with the fifteen year old girl getting no punishment besides being sent somewhere for "help" and then released? I highly doubt that. She may need help, but a murder does deserve punishment.

I feel bad for the victim, not the murderer. .

She needs some psychiatric help.

Sounds like a bit of a sociopath to me.

In my opinion, everyone who has ever murdered someone else needs psychiatric help.

Currie.:

In my opinion, everyone who has ever murdered someone else needs psychiatric help.

Not everyone who has killed someone is necessarily mental, though. You have people with horrible tempers who get so angry that they end up bashing someone's skull in, but they don't have mental issues, tempramental issues, yes. Or people who just have no conscience.

thedisappearinggirl.:

Not everyone who has killed someone is necessarily mental, though. You have people with horrible tempers who get so angry that they end up bashing someone's skull in, but they don't have mental issues, tempramental issues, yes. Or people who just have no conscience.

Psychiatric help can help anyone who has commited crime - it's far more effective at cutting reoffending than prison alone.

^ ^ I'm sure. .

Like I said before, I don't care if she needs help, murder deserves some kind of punishment. Give justice to the victim and her family.