Incest in Writing

  • The Color Abi

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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?

    Having written an incest one shot myself, it only bothers me when incest is glorified and made out to be the bee’s knees…

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?

    I don’t really read incest stories. I wrote one about Ian Fazzi abusing the younger Matt Fazzi but, it sowed all the bad points of it and how it affects the victim… (I also had to make Ian a lot older then Matt is as in real life, Ian’s only a year and two months older then Matt…)

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)

    I’m not really sure. I’ve never read it but, it’s something I may look into as it sounds really interesting to me.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?

    I honestly don’t really like this; the thought makes me feel sick…
    March 13th, 2010 at 04:18pm
  • spector

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    Audrey T.:
    Unfortunately, though, most of the incest stories I've stumbled upon hasn't really been about "incest" but more about two siblings in a band having sex with each other. And, for me, it's kind of senseless. .
    That's basically all I've seen. Facepalm I'd like to read one that actually dealt with the issue.

    I once read a Waycest where Mikey and Gerard wanted to get married. They weren't allowed to because their parents didn't support gay marriage. Yes, your parents don't mind that you're dating your brother, but no, we can't have gays. No

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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?

    As long as it is written and dealt with in what I deem a proper fashion, I think it can be okay.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?

    I used to read Waycest, but soon grew sick of it. I occasionally read Fred/George slash, but that is completely fictional, as the characters don't exist. So, I wouldn't say I go for specific types. I've also never written it.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)

    I have read that fic that you wrote, and I really had no problem with it. So no, that is not an issue for me.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?

    I would still consider that incest, and treat it in the same manner.
    March 13th, 2010 at 06:49pm
  • pierrot the clown.

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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I think it can be very interesting if written properly and realistically, not just as a kink. It doesn't make me all that uncomfortable. Picturing myself in an incestuous relationship, yes, that's very disturbing, but incest in itself isn't. If only a bit awkward.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    Mostly, I avoid certain types of incest. Whenever their relationship flows easily, uh, yeah, not going to happen. I've only ever read about siblings being paired together, so I don't know how I would feel about a parent/child relationship. It would considerably heighten the awkwardness, I guess, but I could overlook it if it was really well-written.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
    I tend to treat fanfiction as original fiction. In both writing and reading, the only thing I take from real life is the name and the physical image. The rest of the character development is up to the writer. So I don't really think much about it.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    Same as above.
    March 13th, 2010 at 07:54pm
  • Audrey T

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    hurricane eyes.:
    That's basically all I've seen. Facepalm I'd like to read one that actually dealt with the issue.

    I once read a Waycest where Mikey and Gerard wanted to get married. They weren't allowed to because their parents didn't support gay marriage. Yes, your parents don't mind that you're dating your brother, but no, we can't have gays. No
    XD And was the fact that in the US you're not legally allowed to marry your siblings even come up?

    By the way, did you guys know that you ARE allowed to marry your first cousins in about half the states in the US? Found that out while doing research on gay marriage a bit ago.

    But on that front, I think that when talking about marriage in incest stories, it's important to, at the least, mention the legal aspect of that. Because it's a pretty big part too. It's easy to ignore the legal issues of a incestutous relationship when NOT talking about marriage because it's not something that's really enforced (unless we're talking about statutory rape issues as well), and "the law" isn't really doing weekly checks of the neighborhood to make sure siblings aren't screwing each other, but once you start talking marriage, then the relationship is being brought out into the open.

    ^ Does that makes sense?
    March 13th, 2010 at 08:12pm
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    Audrey T.:
    XD And was the fact that in the US you're not legally allowed to marry your siblings even come up?
    No. Facepalm I'd PM you a link to the story but I can't remember the title. But basically, Gerard and Mikey came downstairs and announced that they were 'dating' or something and that they wanted to get married.

    Their parents were all 'OMG YOU TWO ARE GAY!'

    So they ran away and got married, and everyone knew and it was all No.
    March 13th, 2010 at 08:51pm
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I honestly don't have a problem with incest in fiction. I don't really approve (then again, nor do I care) of it in real life. I'm actually more likely to read fanfiction incest over original, though I don't see a lot of original incest stories at that.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I tend to stumble upon incest, so no, I don't look for specific types nor am turned off by it if it's not BrotherxSister, etc. But I do agree with an earlier post about no adult/child stuff. Even if it's consensual. I just... hate it. It feels like nonconsensual to me. Even when it isn't

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
    I think I dislike that type of story more. File It doesn't feel...real?

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    It's alright, maybe better, in a way, maybe worse like above. I've never actually read one like that, so I can't really say. :|
    March 14th, 2010 at 05:47am
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I don't have a problem with either. Original, fanfiction, true story--I read them all. :)

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    Brother/Sister only, please. Well, I guess cousins too (though I've never read one of those.) Father/Daughter Mother/Son isn't my cup of tea. I can understand an abuse fic, but not a romance type thing.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually realated in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
    I guess I don't mind. I don't know.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real life, but the author has made them not related?
    Same as above.

    I really don't mind incest all too much. I consider myself as born without boundries--I don't give a damn about race, religion, oriention, or anything like that. Hey, love is love, am I right?
    March 14th, 2010 at 06:03am
  • The Way

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    dominic howard.:
    No. If I was famous, and someone was writing a fanfic about me fucking my sister, I'd be disgusted and pissed off as hell even if they said she wasn't my sister and blah blah blah. This would just be my reaction, of course. I pity any famous person to ever stumble across Mibba, to be honest. Yeah, it's fanfiction and it's not real and it's the author's prerogative and they can fuck with famous people's lives just for teh lolz because it's the internet, but please. Have a little sensitivity sometimes.
    It probably depends on the attitude of the people you're writing about though. Tbh if you don't have a sense of humor about those things - with a level of fame that you get fics written about you - you'd probably go insane. And it's their choice to ~become famous~, and by putting yourself out there you're setting yourself up for criticism, reviews, parodies, and yes, fan works. Coming from a fandom where we'll ship anything and everything (and anyone ever heard of 4chan? Rule 34?), respect is really based on whether you maintain a 4th wall or not.
    March 23rd, 2010 at 05:22am
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    Oh bajeesus. File
    March 23rd, 2010 at 06:09am
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    If you're ashamed of writing something, you probably shouldn't be writing it in the first place, no?
    I just had to comment on this first. I agree completely. I’m proud of everything I write. Well, mostly. I mean, is anyone actually happy with the very first story they wrote when they read it a year later? Lol, you get my point though. I personally believe that writers are artists. The only different between us and painters is the fact that we use a pen instead of a brush, and words instead of paint.

    Actually, to be honest, I do get a little funny about showing certain people my work. Like my grandparents and such. But only because of the content I write. I wrote a story about a kid getting raped, and people in my family did not take it well. It was a HUGE drama. They all thought it was based on me. A few weeks and a long explanation about Transgressive fiction later, and they seem to have calmed down. Not enough for me to go shoving it in their faces though. Only my Mum. She’s really into it now lol.

    Anywho, the point of this visit…

    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I don’t have a problem with it. I’ve actually taken a fancy to writing about it at the moment. The fact that it’s Taboo attracted me to it. And the fact that it makes me want to be sick motivated me to take a crack at writing it. Strange, I know, but I’m a strange person.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    Honestly, the only incest that I absolutely refuse to read is Brendon Urie incest… even though I wrote a short story on the matter. I stumbled upon one, and it horrified me. Something that has never happened before. It’s the reason I wrote my own about him. I want to get over it. I was physically sick when I wrote Vigorous love, and it’s nowhere near as bad as I could have made it.

    Other than that, it doesn’t really bother me.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
    To each his own. I don’t really care.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    Once again, to each his own.
    June 1st, 2010 at 11:13am
  • Mrs.Brightside

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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I'm fine with it, as long as it makes sense if you get me. Give me a reason for them to fall in love that actually makes sense and is believable or I'll just read something else.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I've written in the past and read incest. I haven't read a lot of it, I started with waycest and haven't read anything else, I don't know how I would like it if it was with for example, an original fiction pairing.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually realated in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
    I won't personally read it, but I don't mind it.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real life, but the author has made them not related?
    I've got mixed feelings about it. I guess since I would know that they are actually related I would feel weird reading a story where they aren't.
    June 13th, 2010 at 07:23am
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    Mrs.Brightside:
    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I'm fine with it, as long as it makes sense if you get me. Give me a reason for them to fall in love that actually makes sense and is believable or I'll just read something else.
    Do you mean give a reason as in:

    a) Making love logical and requiring a reason

    b) An incestuous relationship would require the logical reasoning that an non-incestuous relationship wouldn't require?

    c) Or not necessary a logical reason but just make it understandable and believable?

    (I'm not trying to to be snarky, I just know it could honestly be any of those.)
    June 13th, 2010 at 07:27am
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I think it's fine if other people want to write it and enjoy writing it, but only if it's done tastefully and not, like Audrey T. said, just two members of a band that are siblings fucking each other. There are a lot of stories where (most often it's Gerard and Mikey) the characters realise they love each other or whatever and start having sex without a second thought. I mean, surely there is some kind of thought process when that kind of thing happens? But, yeah, as long as it's done tastefully I don't really have a problem, I just don't read it.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I don't read or write any kinds of incest. It's just never appealed to me at all.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
    I'd never really thought of anybody doing that. It's just another plot device really, and if the writer pulls it off then that's great.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    The same as above I guess.
    June 13th, 2010 at 11:08am
  • Mrs.Brightside

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    of dru's heart.:
    Do you mean give a reason as in:

    a) Making love logical and requiring a reason

    b) An incestuous relationship would require the logical reasoning that an non-incestuous relationship wouldn't require?

    c) Or not necessary a logical reason but just make it understandable and believable?

    (I'm not trying to to be snarky, I just know it could honestly be any of those.)
    Pretty much all of the above I guess. I mean, there are stories that don't really give any reason for the characters getting together, and it's like they forgot that, or at least they don't have the ability to capture the fact that the characters are siblings and just have them hook up.
    There needs to be strong backround that makes you think that 'yes, that could actually happen'.
    Backround could be something such as: the two characters have developed a very special bond because of a life situation, they have nobody else, they only trust each other, etc. Just make me believe it.

    What I mean is, without putting all the extra details and backround for the characters, it's just another story that could be with the characters un-related and still not make any difference in the storyline, and that really beats the purpose of writting a story with incest.

    Also, another thing that I find very important is the characters emotions. Yes, they love each other, but there are a thousand of other emotions that should be described because the character is in love with his own brother/sister, etc.

    Hope I made myself clear =)
    June 13th, 2010 at 08:31pm
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    Yeah, that makes more sense. I was reading your statement as love being logical and requiring a reason when it doesn't ever require a reason.
    June 13th, 2010 at 10:32pm
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    ^ Oh, sorry I wasn't clear before =)
    June 13th, 2010 at 11:47pm
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    So, to be clar rigth off, I like waycest. I write it, I read it, it may even be my OTP.
    That being said, I totally understand people who don't like it. I, myself, hate mpreg.
    I just hope people understand that it is my choice to read/write waycest and that no bitchy, "you're sick" comments occur.

    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    Well, generally, I support the author's choice to make their story about whatever they want. However, like with any and all fiction, fan orotherwise, I think authors should try their hardest to stay away from cliche's as possible. Yes, of course, all of us writers of incestual couples have had those stories of "I love you" "I love you too" "it's wrong" "I don't care" (hell, so have a lot of non-incest writers), but a lot of the incestual stories I read and (hopefully) write are original, for fanfiction, anyway.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I've read original incest, Waycest, Kaulitzcest, Elricest, and Tegan/Sara (I don't know their last name), but I've only written, and finished, Waycests. I started a Kaulitzcest, but found that the language bothered me; I'm not German, so I can't type Geman dialogue, but then if I made them speak English, it seemed weird. I'm working on an Elricest, but I'm not sure if I'll ever post it.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
    Not my cup of coffee. Anyone is welcome to do it, but I probably won't read it. The only type of story like that I like, sometimes, is when, lets say, Mikey was given up for adoption and the Iero's adopted him. But from there on, I've only read about Gerard and Mikey finding each other and not knowing they're brothers, but I'd be open to an adopted sibling incest of that naure :)

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    Aside from the scenario above, where Gerard and Mikey (or whom ever) don't know they're sblings, I really don't enjoy this.
    Again, author's choice. But this, no. I won't read. Sorry.
    September 30th, 2010 at 01:06am
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I don't find anything wrong with it, unless it's a 10+ year age gap; that's just..... *shivers* creepy.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I pretty much only read Kaulitzcest. Shifty

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
    It sounds interesting; I've never read a story like that, as far as I can remember. Cute

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    It's their choice, and I don't mind reading stuff like that. It's interesting to see the relations people give them.
    September 30th, 2010 at 01:43am
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    I'm perfectly fine with it, if it's pulled off well.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I only read and write incest occasionally, but in fanfiction it's generally just sibling. However, my favorite pairing from one of my favorite books [Nothing and Zillah from Lost Souls by Poppy Z Brite] is a father/son incest pairing. The way the book is written... I don't know why, but this is the only time I've ever been able to read [and write in the case of the few fanfics I've written for the book] parent/child incest.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
    I think if it were done right, it would be fine.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    As with before, it could work if done right. The key thing with incest, as with a lot of other more touchy topics in writing, is to do it right. Everything has to make sense, to fit with the characters, to be pulled off in a way that doesn't make it look like a joke.
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:48am
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    What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
    Personally, its not really for me but I think that if its written well then I think its ok. Sometimes, in life, peopled who are related to each other fall in love so I don't see why people shouldn't write about it.

    Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
    I don't write it at all and generally don't seek it out to read but if I am to read one, I only will if its a really well written and thought out story. I can't stand it if in the story neither person is at all concerned about the fact that they are related. Somehow I think even if you were sure you were love with your brother/sister, you would still be a bit concerned about it being 'wrong' or whatever. At least to begin with.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)
    Sure, why not? They're your characters and you can do what you want with them.

    What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
    The same as above.
    October 1st, 2010 at 10:32am