Dear America....

  • butterflywings16

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    @ dru seems insane.
    freedom of speeh as long as you don't fringe on the rights of others right? Technically if you protested about say saving the whales, another person could say you were infringing on their rights. However, the save the whales person could say, well you keeping me from saying what I want to is infringing on my rights. Who is right? The Consititution is a contract of a sort of because it out lines our country.
    February 27th, 2013 at 06:44pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    Actually the Constitution hasn't really changed all that much over the past 200 or so years. The government might've changed a lot of things around according to all of these court cases and laws that were introduced since it was originally drafted, but there's no physical mentioning of God, but there is the whole, "freedom of religion" in the constitution. The bottom line is that the Constitution wasn't written with religion as a founding basis alone. It was written with the mind of the U.S. (or America) being a country of opportunity, freedom, and happiness, meaning like if a woman wants to be an inventor like Thomas Edison, then she can or if a black man wants to run for President or Congress, then he should get the chance to do so or if an immigrant wants to start a new life in America, then they can.
    February 27th, 2013 at 06:46pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    It doesn't infringe on anyone's right if you protest about saving the whales. They have the right to anti-protest or not save the whales. That argument is so close to "your gay marriage is violating my religious freedom". If you're on a diet, not everyone else has to eat what you eat.
    February 27th, 2013 at 06:54pm
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    @ Gabriel's Angel Hina
    I agree, I'm just saying that it does have somewhat of a religious background to it.

    @ dru seems insane.
    True but in our society we always blame anyone but ourselves. our so 'loop holes'
    February 27th, 2013 at 07:55pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    So are you now saying the Constitution doesn't have loopholes, that society is creating them?
    February 27th, 2013 at 08:24pm
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    @ dru seems insane.
    No I'm saying it does by itself and also by society's doing.
    February 28th, 2013 at 06:28pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    Will you please point out the loophole in the first Amendment regarding the separation of church and state?
    March 1st, 2013 at 12:21am
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    @ dru seems insane.
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    It says Congress should not make a law. It doesn't say anything about you must keep them separate in the states. It is by choice. This is a loophole. This always religion in the states that wish to have such.
    March 1st, 2013 at 06:55pm
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    It says 'shall make no law' not 'should not make no law'. Shall not will means will not.

    Please give me an actual loophole that does not involve changing the wording of the Amendment.

    @ butterflywings16
    March 1st, 2013 at 11:59pm
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    @ dru seems insane.
    Will not, should not same meaning.
    But the Constitution is a document of interpretion
    March 4th, 2013 at 06:31pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    Should not means you shouldn't and will not means you will not. One is an absolute and one is a moral uncertainty. I'm not sure what "same meaning" exists there.
    March 4th, 2013 at 08:37pm
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    @ dru seems insane.
    But since it's in the consititution it is an absolute.
    March 5th, 2013 at 06:29pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    What is an absolute? The exact word which says Congress "shall not" as in cannot, not as in should not?

    (from Mirriam-Webster's site: "used in laws, regulations, or directives to express what is mandatory")

    It is mandatory that Congress makes no laws respecting an establishment of religion.
    March 5th, 2013 at 11:25pm
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    @ dru seems insane.
    Yes for Congress, not the people. People can make laws.
    March 6th, 2013 at 06:29pm
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    @ butterflywings16
    How does the general public make laws? If I'm not mistaken they have to be voted on and passed by state legislature or federal legislature systems. I can't make a law willy-nilly.
    March 6th, 2013 at 11:52pm
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    You can make a law and the people vote on it. We actually just learned about it in history class.

    @ dru in flight.
    March 7th, 2013 at 06:01am
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    @ butterflywings16
    But they can't pass/vote an unConstitutional law into effect; the governor/president would veto it or else the law would get sued for being unConstitutional and go to court and yeah...
    March 8th, 2013 at 12:00am
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    Dear America,

    Stop trying to help every other country when you're going to hell. And, start investing in the education system, the children are fucked up enough.
    March 18th, 2013 at 05:28am
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    Dear America, you're a liar. "Liberty for all" and separation of church and state yet gay's can't marry. Check yoself because I'm about to migrate my ass to Canada. File
    March 29th, 2013 at 04:47am
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    Dear America,
    We will never be able to go back after Monsanto. The environment will be permanently changed forever. You're probably giving us all cancer and we are all going to die. But you get rich, so who gives a shit? Just kill fucking EVERYONE.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 06:41pm