Suicide

Shalisa Beckett.:

But there will always be people who want to help you - you only have one chance at life.

So?

That's the answer the majority of society who has contemplated suicide will state. There's also mounds of those who mentally are emotionally unstabled. Yes there is help for the emotionally unstabled and the lack of distress that only a certain amount people can take--yet all responses are different to that help.

Not everyone sees that people are willing to help. It's chemically induced and mentally incoherent to them.

Innamorata:

Shalisa Beckett.:

But there will always be people who want to help you - you only have one chance at life.

So?

That's the answer the majority of society who has contemplated suicide will state. There's also mounds of those who mentally are emotionally unstabled. Yes there is help for the emotionally unstabled and the lack of distress that only a certain amount people can take--yet all responses are different to that help.

Not everyone sees that people are willing to help. It's chemically induced and mentally incoherent to them.

I'm scared of the "help" because of the past, the help ended up hurting me.

Yes, sometimes the "helpers" don't really help. Alot of times, they are only interested in the money, or what they get out of it, not the actual person with the problems.

And of course there's always someone that wants to help. But sometimes you can't find the person.

SpasticSprite:

Yes, sometimes the "helpers" don't really help. Alot of times, they are only interested in the money, or what they get out of it, not the actual person with the problems.

And of course there's always someone that wants to help. But sometimes you can't find the person.

Yeah, help was abuse in the psych ward (read my post on the last page about it). And I'm sure the psych ward wasn't the only hospital that did that, so help sounds scary.

Yeah, I read it, and I'm so sorry that happened to you. My sister was in a psych ward, and a bunch of my friends too. It's horrible how they treat them. My sister only ahd to spend a week there... some of my friends had to say longer. None of their stories sounded like the place helped them any....

Shalisa Beckett.:

But there will always be people who want to help you - you only have one chance at life.

What about reincarnation? I may not believe in it personally, but there's multiple religions who believe that souls come back in other forms.

SpasticSprite:

Yeah, I read it, and I'm so sorry that happened to you. My sister was in a psych ward, and a bunch of my friends too. It's horrible how they treat them. My sister only ahd to spend a week there... some of my friends had to say longer. None of their stories sounded like the place helped them any....

Yeah I feel really bad for my friend. well I met her there but she's been there for MONTHS and it's like her 8th time. She needs to get outta there. The first time I went for 14 days, 2nd time 5 days, 3rd time 14 days. And that's nothing compared to her and it was traumatizing so I just wish she could get out. ALTHOUGH now I remember. There was this hospital I went to that was outpatient and it was the hospital but during like school hours. I was there for 4 weeks and it was sooo different from the hospital and I went like 5 steps forward. I think what made it better was you know, the hospital was just abuse and actually, NO therapy. This outpatient program, you met awesome people and you had therapy and the staff was cool and everyone was just open.

I believe in reincarnation.

But yeah - I heard about that program. It sounded great. Yeah, it makes me mad when they jsut stick them in there, then IGNORE them... gods.. that pisses me off.

I started thinking about suicide.
Seriously thinking about it.
And if a person has exhausted every option.
Seriously tried extremely hard to be happy and to cope and to deal in their life.
Maybe they don't have any other options.

Of course, I'm currently suicidal, so this might need to be taken with a grain of salt...

^ I agree with you. It's a touchy subject, and when you're suicidal your mentally unstable and desparate. You don't think of getting help, or other ways out. You just want to end it.

I was suicidal and even attempted it but I'm very glad I didn't. I know people who are suicidal may not always consider this but just think of the future you dreamt of as a little kid. Your giving that up. And think of some of the things you've just experienced; if you had committed suicide you'd never feel those good moments. That's one of the things that kept me going.

I've wanted to die in my life, and gone through a lot of shit, but I've only really been suicidal once.
I don't ever, ever want to go back to that place.
I'd get any kind of help rather than be there again.

There is, I think, a point you cross where help is not something you can look for, or accept. You can't get out of there through anything but whatever is inside your head. If your head can't do it on its own, then ...
-shrug-
I don't know what life's point is yet - but I'm beginning to suspect I've figured it out.
So that gives me something I never had before - purpose, in life, in living.

I don't believe in suicide. I don't advocate it. I'd be beyond devastated if a friend of mine killed themselves.

But I can understand [or, I think I can understand] why they would do it, and I believe it's their choice.

I think there are some situations that some people can't deal with. If that's the case, I'm not going to bitch someone out, or try to make them guilty, or hate them. Even if it hurts me. Because that, I think, is being selfish.

Then again the hypocritical voice in my head yells NOO DON'T LET THEM DO IT.

Suicide is a cry for help. Only, the people who threaten or have tried to commit don't want help. They think that nothing will make it better, and sometimes, I think they are right. Sometimes, people just drew the short end of the stick and can't seem to find a longer one before other people notice that they've lost.

I can understand why people would want to commit suicide, because they might have had the same reason as me. Even at that, I still can't put it into words why I wanted to kill myself. I suspect that I'm not completely over my last attempt at cutting. But I also suspect that I'll always be the person who is for euthanasia.

I agree with Fallen From Grace. You are giving up the future that you always dreamed about. If you give up, you'll never get to see how it unfolds. That would be the thing that kills me.

Nickel.

Laces For Hanging.:

I agree with Fallen From Grace. You are giving up the future that you always dreamed about. If you give up, you'll never get to see how it unfolds. That would be the thing that kills me.

And sometimes it's the fact that your future that you dreamed about got taken away that you want to die.

Rebuttal?

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druscilla; blogged:

Laces For Hanging.:

I agree with Fallen From Grace. You are giving up the future that you always dreamed about. If you give up, you'll never get to see how it unfolds. That would be the thing that kills me.

And sometimes it's the fact that your future that you dreamed about got taken away that you want to die.

Rebuttal?

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fair enough, I can totally understand that point of view. But that doesn't mean you may not still have a happy life. I was suicidal at one point and ever since that time there have been plenty of happy moments that make me glad I lived.
Just because you've lost one future doesn't mean you can't rebuild another.

Fallen From Grace:

druscilla; blogged:

Laces For Hanging.:

I agree with Fallen From Grace. You are giving up the future that you always dreamed about. If you give up, you'll never get to see how it unfolds. That would be the thing that kills me.

And sometimes it's the fact that your future that you dreamed about got taken away that you want to die.

Rebuttal?

:file:

fair enough, I can totally understand that point of view. But that doesn't mean you may not still have a happy life. I was suicidal at one point and ever since that time there have been plenty of happy moments that make me glad I lived.
Just because you've lost one future doesn't mean you can't rebuild another.

And you may not have a happy life.
You may not be able to rebuild a future.
I think if you try.
Really try.
And you can't, you should be able to take your own life without being considered selfish.

^ yeah, me too. I never said it was selfish...:shifty:
I think people who commit suicide are actually quite brave. To leave everything you've ever known behind and go to a place that so many people are so scared to go. To embrace death when everyone else is scared of it.
I don't encourage suicide or think it's good but I do think it's a very brave thing to do.

I think one of the big suicide questions is bravery.

Is it braver to hold on and not kill yourself, not take "the coward's way out", as people so often preach, or to take that life? To die, the one thing no one truly knows about, the one thing no one has experienced fully and can tell us about.

When I wanted to die it felt cowardly to not be able to ram a pair of scissors into my wrist. Or even jump off a building. It felt like a flaw. Like suicide was something I didn't deserve, to end my 'suffering'.
Now, I feel like it is [for me] the quick way out. The easy route. It feels braver to live, and love, and learn.

But I think suicide is one of the most personal-belief-based discussions we could have. Even religion is organised to an extent; but people's feelings on suicide will always differ in [at least] a multitude of tiny respects.

Suicide is never an option, no matter what! People do care about you and if that person commits it they will be sad and depressed. Suicide is also like a disease, its contagious sometimes when people commit it and die their love ones will try to do the same. No people you will not with god when you commit suicide, you just rot in the ground and waste your life. No matter how bad a persons life gets it will get better....

Mikey Way.:

No people you will not with god when you commit suicide, you just rot in the ground and waste your life.

How will you waste your life if you're dead?