Love Like War

@ EmzyStilinski
Not sure, I kind of want it to be a girl... I don't know really... I think maybe a girl because I can just imagine when his daughter grows older and like starts dating and shit, Drew can go all CIA on the dude's ass!

@ king in the north
Yeah, the second chapter sounds about right. And I'll get a picture of Vicky when I get home, but I'm fine with you doing the banner! Would you like me to do the layout? I like making them.

And I will summary everything about Vicky into one post when I get home, like you guys have.

@ castiel's vessel
Sounds good. You can def make the layout.

@ king in the north
That's be cool :)

Guys I'm like uber excited

@ castiel's vessel
Alrighty, that sounds good!

@ EmzyStilinski
One question, so Drew and AK are going to compromise their friendship during their competition over Vicky right? Just like in the movie? So when or how do you think that the two should find out that they are interested in the same girl?

@ king in the north
Maybe one has a background check on her and has it sat on his desk and the other sees it?

Victoria (Vicky) Jane Winborn
24
Primary/elementary school teacher for seven/eight year olds.

Being the middle child, Vicky was the one that had to be better than her older sister and be a role model for her younger brother. Has her own place (with help from her parents as a gift for getting somewhere in life) and her sister Chloe lives with her who is 27 and unemployed. She's never been too concerned with having a boyfriend because she can live without one and the ones that she has had before turned out to be flakey or boring which is a letdown. The one boyfriend she thought she had something with ended up cheating on her with a girl he knew from high school that he had never really gotten over.

She meets Drew first at the museum and he impressed her so much with his knowledge and interactions with the children. After they agree to meet for dinner (or something else?) to continue their conversation and have a good time, she meets AK the following day and isn't impressed with him because he's a jerk. They've just parted when she runs into her ex, Johnny, who is there with the girl he cheated on her with. He starts questioning her about her guy and before she knows it AK's saving the day by pretending to the guy to help her out (and to piss Johnny off) so then he buys her a drink and she realises he's not as bad as she first thought.

Not entirely happy about having two guys but didn't tell AK about the guy the previous day because of the nice thing he did and it just wouldn't be good to come out with it after their drinks. She tries to pick up all the flaws of both guys to see which one she likes the most and could actually see herself with in a long term relationship that doesn't crash and burn.

@ king in the north
@ EmzyStilinski

How close are we staying to the actual plot or was it just the characters and love triangle that we were using?

@ castiel's vessel
Well I was thinking of them competing for her and the sabotage.let's not decide who she ends up with to keep mystery and things could change . How many chapters do you think maybe 24?

@ king in the north

@ EmzyStilinski
Heyyyy! That would be ahhh-mazing!

@ castiel's vessel
First of all, I adore Katie McGrath, so I am glad that she is the face claim for your character. Speaking of face claims, I've decided on mine (click)

I was thinking that I don't want to stick too closely to the plot of the movie. But whatever you guys want, I'll go with!

And I feel so bad for Chloe though, being the older sibling and kind of the let down of the two. *sad face for her*

I love your profile and the development you have out on her so far!

@ EmzyStilinski
Well if we are going with 24 then each of our individual chapters will need to be sort of long or long enough to get the story across. And I can't wait to get to the sabotage part!

@ EmzyStilinski @ castiel's vessel
Alright, I'm no graphic expert but I think I kind of like the way the banner turned out.

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So yeah, how do you guys feel about this banner? I used two different programs for the banner so if you guys want something changed, let me know about all the changes you want to make before I remake the banner. (If the change is very significant then I will redo it.)

@ EmzyStilinski
I'd think 24 would be a bit little but if we outline the chapters it might fit nicely!

@ king in the north
Yeah, I was thinking that too.

And the banner looks really nice! I like it.

I had a dream about this...... maybe 48-52

@ king in the north
My phone hates me and won't let me see it

@ EmzyStilinski
For chapter? That could be a decent amount.

So, now we have the characters in should we work out the plot in its entity or should we outline the chapters while we're sorting out the plot?

Maybe both lol. An outline is always good to sort things out and it's less confusing. We also need to have major points like dates, sabotage, stuff like that!

@ castiel's vessel

@ castiel's vessel @ EmzyStilinski
Yeah, I think outlining the chapters will genuinely help determine how many chapters we need in order to conclude this story.

And I was thinking that, as oppose to the movie, I kind of want the whole CIA affair to be more relevant to the story than it is to the movie.

And maybe since AK and Drew will need to pledge and make sure that Vicky doesn't find out that they know each other, there might be some obstacle courses (minor ones even) that they encounter to prevent her from knowing. It's like maybe Ak and Drew has to go to another country for a mission this one time and Vicky notices that both men are gone and out to travel. It raises her suspicions but doesn't bring her to the conclusion that they both know each other. And the two men just look at each other and say something like "even if I despise you so much right now, we need to do better at keeping our partnership and friendship undercover."

@ king in the north
Yeah, that's what I was thinking! The film mostly focused on them trying to win her over while spying on her when it could have been a bit better and cut some scenes and replace it with CIA work (even paperwork cos they were grounded). And then she can sort of confess her suspicions to her sister all like "they're both out of town for the same time - and Drew's a flippin historian!" and I'm thinking that there'll be a little joke between the two with her sister being all like "what if they're lovers?" and then they can discuss who would be the dominant one over a bottle of wine because despite Chloe being a letdown and Vicky teaching little kids, they love a good joke in an evening at the expense of people they know. Just for fun.

@ EmzyStilinski

I know they're going to spying on her but will they have planted the cameras and such in her house like they did in the film? Because if so I was thinking that maybe she or her sister finds one and they're like "oh my gosh, we're being listened to/watched?" which could lead to the guys worrying that they might be found out (especially as they've been out of town at the exactly same time).

@ castiel's vessel
Yeah, I also felt like they should have done more of the CIA stuff in the movie, just because I am just so intrigued by the concept. Oh and I already adore the relationship between Vicky and Chloe. I am looking forward to some of their conversations and banters about the guys and also about their lifestyles generally. But haha, I find it kind of hilarious that Vicky's flabbergasted at Drew the historian traveling to another city, her exasperation is something I am most certainly looking forward to.

IDK, do we want the guys to put surveillance camera all over Vicky's house while she is home... or? I mean IDK why they did it in the movie because it seems very unprofessional for two men with immense training and experience to do that. Maybe AK and Drew can put secret cameras of their own without each other knowing? (So at different times, I assume?) I mean maybe while Chloe and Vicky are not home. Then maybe one of the girls find a camera hidden somewhere and they start freaking out about it, not knowing where it came from. Then Drew and AK would start blaming each other for the indiscretion and it adds to their conflict.

@ king in the north
I absolutely love the relationship between Vicky and Chloe because they're just so full of jokes and jabs at one another that and people who know just one of them would never think that they would be like that because they're so different to how they are together because they bring out a brilliant side to each other that is just so hilarious.

Yeah, I don't think they'd do it when she's home/Chloe's home because that is really unprofessional and I didn't quite get that bit in the film because they were both in the house at the same time doing the same thing and she didn't notice as she dancing around the place in a shirt? Unlikely. And yeah, one of them find a camera and after finding out that the other sister did not put it there, they start freaking out because it means someone else has been in their home and that's unsettling to them.

@ castiel's vessel
I think that is absolutely wonderful to have a relationship like that with your sister. I also appreciate the fact that even though Chloe is technically the "screw up" but still loves and maintains a great relationship with Vicky. A lot of movies/shows/plotlines have this stereotypical thing where the screwed up sister despises the more successful one and vice versa.

Yeah, I raised a questionable eyebrow during that scene in the movie, but I feel like it is mostly for comedic purposes mainly cuz I laughed during that scene. So yeah, I guess whoever planted the camera that got discovered will be wallowing in shame because they've failed as a CIA agent, and I can imagine the other person to rub it in their face and/or lecture him about how he screwed up hiding the camera.

Do you think Vicky would mention it to any of the guys?