Fifteen Year Old Girl Stabs, Strangles, and Slits the Throat of a Nine Year Old Girl.

thedisappearinggirl.:

^ ^ I stand by this, still.

If we are under the assumption that she does have mental issues ( as it seems we are ), then they are gonna have to send her to a ward. But as I said up there, not everyone who kills or tries to kill people are diagnosed with a mental illness. Though I don't think she has any issues, I'm not completely closed off to the idea that she does have them.

Before making any decisions, I think she should be carefully looked at by professionals, and I'm guessing that's what's going to happen, and that's the bottom line of my opinion at this point.

One thing I don't understand is why she chose to kill the nine year old girl, instead of someone older or someone less closer to her. I figured that if you wanted to know what it felt like, you wouldn't kill someone that you actually knew . . . . I mean, if I wanted to see what it was like to kill someone ( which I don't ), I think I would take the logical path of choosing to not try it on anyone that's involved in my life or close to me . . . . But who knows.

It would make sense for her to kill a child because since she's so young, she couldn't have tackled an adult, or perhaps not even somebody her age. And I guess that's also why she choose a child who already trusted her. It was the easiest target.

^ Innit. You're much more likely to be attacked, abused or murdered by someone you know than a stranger. I'm not entirely sure why - proximity and trust, I'd imagine.

thedisappearinggirl.:

^ ^ True, but remember, I'm the person that doesn't think she has any mental issues.

'Yet Bustamante had tried to commit suicide at age 13 and had been receiving mental health treatment for depression and cutting herself, said David Cook, the chief juvenile officer in Cole County.'

you don't think she has any mental issues? So you think that is considered sane behaviour?

Fallen From Grace:

'Yet Bustamante had tried to commit suicide at age 13 and had been receiving mental health treatment for depression and cutting herself, said David Cook, the chief juvenile officer in Cole County.'

you don't think she has any mental issues? So you think that is considered sane behaviour?

It's also been scientifically proven that suicide is caused by mental disorders.

Well, it can be.

In any case, it's obvious that the girl needs help, and prison can only hurt in this situation.

angus young:

It's also been scientifically proven that suicide is caused by mental disorders.

Or at least 96%.

thedisappearinggirl.:

Yes, but obviously mental issues are a lot different than cancer.

I still don't see the difference considering you're gonna live your life and die in the same place, with or without help.

Whether she needs help or not, she took the life of a nine year old girl -- the little girl's life hadn't even started yet -- she hurt the girl's family deeply. They lost something that meant an incredible ton to them, because of this messed up fifteen year old.

Happening to be less mental then you were when you entered the facility isn't going to help you during the last half of your life while you're stuck in that same facility.

Yes, but the girl who did the killing is human also, just because she killed someone doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to treatment, if that is what she needs. I'm not saying don't punish her. But, you don't need to punish her more by denying her treatment.

If it comes up that she is legally insane then she needs to get treatment if she just has no conscience then she needs to be put on death row. If you take a life your life should be taken also.

SecondxHeartbeat:

If it comes up that she is legally insane then she needs to get treatment if she just has no conscience then she needs to be put on death row. If you take a life your life should be taken also.

Eye for an eye, eh?

SecondxHeartbeat:

If it comes up that she is legally insane then she needs to get treatment if she just has no conscience then she needs to be put on death row. If you take a life your life should be taken also.

But she's a minor, how can you advise the murder of a child with such cold blood? Perhaps it is you who has no conscience.

Though, I think the US has abolished juvenile execution a few years ago. They were, together with advanced and democratic countries such as Iran and China, the last countries in the world to regard such a savage practice as "justice".

SecondxHeartbeat:

If you take a life your life should be taken also.

So, I'm guessing you'll be campaigning for every man and woman who's ever fought and killed in war to be put to death, then?

SecondxHeartbeat:

...then she needs to be put on death row. If you take a life your life should be taken also.

It's funny that you're against abortion, but you think this girl should be killed.

dru's county line.:

It's funny that you're against abortion, but you think this girl should be killed.

Exactly.

And as for the 'if you take a life, your like should be taken' comment, are you then saying that all women who terminate pregnancies or their doctors should be killed too?
The eye for an eye attitude can work in many ways. I noticed that on another thread you said you downloaded things illegally. That's stealing. So would you advocate it if someone came to your house and stole your things?

I know this is going slightly off-topic, but I'm trying to understand your views, since they all seem to contradict each other.

I heard of this while I was on my vacation. I was deeply sickened by this girl's actions, and immediately thought that she tried as an adult. She was old enough to know what she was doing and she probably knew the consequences of her actions. I believe that the victims family should ultimately have the decision though (to try her as a child or adult), because they need some kind of justice. I don't think that death row is the answer at all, not at all. Two wrongs don't make anything right, but she does deserve serious charges against her.

I don't think she should be tried as an adult. After all she is still a child.

I like this case because maybe now people can realize that murderers, kidnappers etc aren't all middle-aged scary looking men.
It could be anyone, even a confused fifteen year old girl.

^Yes, but the point is that she isn't the only case of a non-middle aged male murderer/kidnapper in the world. There have actually been quite a lot of cases like hers. It's just for some reason people still stereotype the middle-aged scary looking men, because children aren't supposed to be capable of such things.

If children are to be tried as adults why do we try people as children at all?

^It's the dumbest thing if you ask me. If the crime is shocking enough or has something sexual to it, suddenly children aren't children anymore? Ridiculous.

Xsoteria:

^It's the dumbest thing if you ask me. If the crime is shocking enough or has something sexual to it, suddenly children aren't children anymore? Ridiculous.

I mean, if the girl were seventeen and a half, I think that it could be considered. That's dangerously close to eighteen. But fifteen. That is a child.

I, personally, think she should be tried as an adult.

What she did was a serious crime. She cold bloodily murdered a nine year old girl. Stabbed her, strangled her, and slit her throat just to "see what it felt like"? What kind of an explanation is that? I don't think it's a very good one.