Incest in Writing

I'm going to write a cousin incest story [hopefully]. Do you guys think that cousin incest would get the same reaction that sibling incest would? (From family members, I mean.)

^No, I don't think so.

In today's society, I think it's really disturbing. I don't see any reason for anyone to have sex with their sibling. They're many other choices in the world. I don't think you should love your siblings anymore than a hug and a kiss on the cheek.

I've heard one girl talking about it (not on this site). She sounded young, naive and confused. She let her curiosity get the best of her.

dru is the spark.:

I'm going to write a cousin incest story [hopefully]. Do you guys think that cousin incest would get the same reaction that sibling incest would? (From family members, I mean.)

Well, probably not as dramatic of a reaction, but as far as the "that's sick" reaction, that would definately still be there. Good luck!

ayanasioux:

^No, I don't think so.

In today's society, I think it's really disturbing. I don't see any reason for anyone to have sex with their sibling. They're many other choices in the world. I don't think you should love your siblings anymore than a hug and a kiss on the cheek.

I've heard one girl talking about it (not on this site). She sounded young, naive and confused. She let her curiosity get the best of her.

But remember, you aren't them. There are certain circumstances that lead to incest. It's not usually "oh, my sibling is attractive, I want to have sex with them", there are almost always deeper problems that stem from everything from mental imbalance to being abused as a child and only finding comfort in each other (re: Flowers in the Attic). It can also deal with how the people are raised. The ancient Egyptians and Romans practiced incest all the time, as a way of keeping the royal blood pure. Some people still have that mindset when it comes to race, and definately that can result in incestual relations.

But regardless, while this is an interesting topic, I don't think your post applies to writing.

ayanasioux:

In today's society, I think it's really disturbing. I don't see any reason for anyone to have sex with their sibling. They're many other choices in the world. I don't think you should love your siblings anymore than a hug and a kiss on the cheek.

I've heard one girl talking about it (not on this site). She sounded young, naive and confused. She let her curiosity get the best of her.

You need to read the first post of this thread. It's not for the discussion of incest in society, simply in writing. What you're talking about doesn't pertain to writing.

Michael James Way.:

But remember, you aren't them. There are certain circumstances that lead to incest. It's not usually "oh, my sibling is attractive, I want to have sex with them", there are almost always deeper problems that stem from everything from mental imbalance to being abused as a child and only finding comfort in each other (re: Flowers in the Attic). It can also deal with how the people are raised. The ancient Egyptians and Romans practiced incest all the time, as a way of keeping the royal blood pure. Some people still have that mindset when it comes to race, and definately that can result in incestual relations.

But regardless, while this is an interesting topic, I don't think your post applies to writing.

The mess up starts with the abuse/ metal imbalance. Most of the stories I've read the people have WROTE include regular people. When I read the ones with people that have been raped, abused or whatever, I understand that. But I don't like the random falling in love people.

And ANCIENT Egypt isn't TODAY'S society. That's the reason I said that.

ayanasioux:

The mess up starts with the abuse/ metal imbalance. Most of the stories I've read the people have WROTE include regular people. When I read the ones with people that have been raped, abused or whatever, I understand that. But I don't like the random falling in love people.

And ANCIENT Egypt isn't TODAY'S society. That's the reason I said that.

But that isn't how it works in the real world--it's called fiction for a reason. And besides, it's totally unrealistic when anyone randomly falls in love with another person, whether or not they're related.

And if you read the end of my post, I said that that was the original mindset and that it STILL exists today.

Michael James Way.:

But that isn't how it works in the real world--it's called fiction for a reason. And besides, it's totally unrealistic when anyone randomly falls in love with another person, whether or not they're related.

And if you read the end of my post, I said that that was the original mindset and that it STILL exists today.

I read the end of your post. I still think the same way about it.

That's what I don't like about incest in writing, though.

ayanasioux:

I read the end of your post. I still think the same way about it.

That's what I don't like about incest in writing, though.

But there are still reasons it happens in today's society--that's what I'm saying. You're obviously allowed to have your own opinion, I'm just telling you that there are reasons it happens (though, I do agree that when they randomly fall in love it is odd).

But it doesn't always just have to be the after effect of abuse. Like, I am writing an incest fic in which the siblings have a soulbond and, yes, there will be incestual relations that have nothing to do with either of them being abused in any way, but it also makes sense because the other has always been there and understood.

And I don't think you should narrow it down to just incest, most of the problems you've complained about happen in other styles of fanfiction too.

ayanasioux:

That's what I don't like about incest in writing, though.

So you think incest in writing is bad because you think incest is bad. I'm assuming you think murder is bad. Does that mean we shouldn't write about it?

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?
It doesn't bother me. I'll read either or (fanfiction or original) and it's fine with me. I find it intriguing, and very interesting. I also believe people should write about whatever they want, despite the subject, so if they want to write about incest then go right ahead.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?
I stay away from rape/molestation incest, but on the subject of incest that you're talking about, not really. I don't write it, though. I'm not good at writing in that genre.

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related?
I haven't really read any like that, but I guess it would be fine. I don't see a problem with it.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?
Once again, never read anything like it. But I guess I would if I stumbled across it.

One of my first stories had two minor characters that were twin sisters that were together.

I was, like, 12.

In Starling, [spoiler] Cameron and Adam are together. They're second cousins and it is early Edwardian era, but it's still technically incest. Plus they're both guys, so that adds to the "taboo."

I think they're so much more romantic than the other, straight couples. The blood line kind of magnifies the bond.

I meant to post here but I couldn't, so here it is:

What do you personally think of incest in fiction, both fanfiction and original fiction?

I like it. I think it offers a lot more possibilities than relationships with people outside of the family circle. The characters have generally spent most of their lives together and it can be interesting to describe the moment their relationship went to a different level.

Do you only read/write certain "types" of incest?

Well, I love twincest - and that's even better when the twins are identical. My opinion might be biaised by the incredible amount of TH twc fanfics I've read though x) But I think it's the best. I don't have a twin so I couldn't know what it feels like, but I believe it's really a special relationship sharing your looks and your thoughts with someone and I like to read about how far it can go.
I don't have an opinion on other types of incest because I rarely ever read het and I don't know about celebrities's family members. (I'm not a fan of original fiction but that's a different thing I won't discuss here.)

What do you think of (in fanfic) incest where the characters aren't actually related in real life, but it's AU/AR and the author has made them related? (For example, I wrote a story where I made Adrienne and Billie Joe Armstrong brother and sister.)

It doesn't sound right to me. I mean, if I read the fanfic and I know a bit about the characters, it would be difficult to me to convince myself they're related in the story. Now, if I don't really know the characters and I later then find out they're not actually related, I would feel like I've been fooled.

What do you think of (in fanfic) where the characters are related in real-life, but the author has made them not related?

Pretty much the same as above: it doesn't sound right. I've read several TH fanfics where Bill and Tom aren't related, but I can't get out of my mind that they actually are. Plus, it sounds hypocritical on my opinion. I feel like the author is saying "Yeah, I love to think of them together, but they're not related in my story so it means I don't caution incest !"

Also, I don't understand people going mad about incest in fanfics. Personally, if I were a celebrity, I would find it just funny because unlikely to ever happen.

I have a question to pose to this group.

When it comes to incestual fan fiction, what is your feeling on Twincest (an incestual relationship between twins)?

Does it change your feelings if the twins are identical?

^
I view it the same as I view any other incest story, whether the twins are identical or not.

^ Do you think it's awkward at all, for identical twin, being in love with someone who physically looks just like you?

Michael James Way.:

^ Do you think it's awkward at all, for identical twin, being in love with someone who physically looks just like you?

No. 'Cause if you really love someone looks don't matter. And if it's just lust it creates an interesting psychological factor.

deeper than dru.:

No. 'Cause if you really love someone looks don't matter. And if it's just lust it creates an interesting psychological factor.

Of course the looks don't matter--and I'm pretty sure nothing would stop them. I'm just curious about the 'having sex with someone who looks just like me' part. Would that be a hinderance to their concecration of their love?

Michael James Way.:

Of course the looks don't matter--and I'm pretty sure nothing would stop them. I'm just curious about the 'having sex with someone who looks just like me' part. Would that be a hinderance to their concecration of their love?

I don't think so. I think two people who are so the same would notice the differences in each other. And unless the person hated themselves . . .

^I'm kind of (totally) just butting in, here, but I'm trying to start using the Tips forum again and this is how I'm doing it.

Back in my angsty slash days (if they're really over XD), I actually wrote a few excerpts of an original twincest with identical twins, one of whom hated themselves. My take on it was that the person who hated himself definitely did notice (and create) differences between himself and the twin. Whereas twin #2 couldn't really understand it, and downplayed their differences to the point where he was hurt that twin #1 didn't like himself.

I've never written or read incest and I don't plan to. It's not really my thing, but each to their own!