Comedy Fan Fiction and Fiction Writing Help

  • Siriano;

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    if i write anything that's going to be in the least bit funny, i usually use a "comedian character". some one who is a goofball that is mainly retardedly funny, then everyone makes comments. it ends up kinda funny.

    i also insert extremely retarded inside jokes to my stories. usually they're me and my friends' (i.e. "well you can't be really accurate...)
    September 29th, 2007 at 07:15am
  • Poirot's Moustache

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    I have comedic elements to some of my stories sometimes (or at least, I'd like to think that they're comedic). I don't do pure comedy often. It's not really my thing, because I find when I write it that it can get unrealistic (and I mean outside of fics that are crackfic).

    I'd say that there's an element of comedy to some of my characters, such as Shannon Way in Holding His Hand Like a Brand New Kite, and I had a few amusing lines in Making Conversation which is a Ger-Z.

    I guess all you can do is let it come naturally. If you force funny, it won't be.
    March 10th, 2009 at 07:24am
  • folie a dru.

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    I like stories that are funny, but not so much in an "LOL" way.
    Where it's more, you start grinning because they're just casually funny things that are natural and happen everyday.
    March 10th, 2009 at 07:39am
  • bateman

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    ^ Same.
    I find writing comedy quite difficult, though.
    March 10th, 2009 at 08:27am
  • Jinxeh

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    I actually really like comedy, and make a point to try to make my readers laugh at least once or twice with everything that I post. In a one-shot I posted a while ago, Scrabble, most of the story is propelled along by comedy - or, to be more specific, the banter being thrown between Chantal Claret-Euringer and her husband, Jimmy Urine, or between Jimmy and Gerard Way. There are serious moments closer to the end of the story, but overall it's just a fun, silly fic about some rock stars sitting down and playing a board game.

    In No Man's Land, it's a little different. An actual plot is in place for that story, and it's what moves things along chapter by chapter. But I still try to make people laugh, whether I'm writing about a character getting drunk and ranting about how squares are the work of the devil but rectangles are amazing, or throwing in a little bit of historical humor, like in this scene:
    No Man's Land; Chapter 39:
    “They had these little, like…action figures, I guess? But for historical authors and poets and stuff. They were in a novelty shop, and me and Mikey were looking at them for a while because they seemed kind of cool, and they had a lot of different kinds.”

    “You don’t say? What did they have? Like, painters too, and stuff?”

    “Yeah. I remember, they had a Vincent Van Gogh one,” said Gerard, still rummaging through his bag.

    “Did it come with a detachable ear?”

    “An extra head, that was missing an ear. And they also had an Edgar Allen Poe one, which was pretty cool.”

    “Did it come with a detachable sense of angst?”

    “No, a little raven for his shoulder. But out of all of them, I just had to get you this…” Gerard rolled over again, now proudly displaying the product in his hands—a packaged Oscar Wilde action figure. Jackie almost yelled out as he sat up and grabbed it from the man’s hands.

    “Does it come with a detachable little boy?” he asked in delight, turning the packaging over in his hands and admiring the rather small, painted plastic figurine.
    The thing about comedy, is that a lot of people seem to think that randomness = comedy. And it can, but then a majority of those people also assume that writing randomness that's also funny is very easy - and it's not. If a character suddenly runs around screaming, "I AM THE MUGGLE QUEEN OF GUMMY BEARS," it's not very funny at all. (Unless we're all suddenly back in elementary school.)

    Building such things up as inside jokes, and then revealing the all-out comedic moment about it does make it funny, though. Such as what I mentioned about the rectangles - there was no real reason behind it, except that a character got drunk and started mumbling about it. Then, as things progressed, another character joined in and, already knowing that said character has a thing about rectangles when intoxicated, made some cracks about it. “Awesome! I know how much you like your oblong quadrilaterals!” And it's just a weird thing to say, but the fact that the focus was on rectangles during the main part of the conversation made it funny. (At least, it did in my opinion, but my readers seemed to like it too.) The same thing about Oscar Wilde. The character had mentioned before that Wilde was one of my favorite writers, and people liked to make fun of him for it in reference to Wilde's reputation with call-boys in his life. I added that quote up there in a later chapter, and the earlier references made it funny.

    You do have to build up to randomness, in writing. I know how weird that sounds, but it's true. Call them "inside jokes" for writing, if you have to, but randomness just doesn't work without that build-up. I once read a story (on another website) that used it in an almost painful way - all of the characters burst into Hogwarts and introduced themselves as "The Unicorn Princess of Gumdrops!" or "The Muggle Queen of Garden Gnomes" and it was...almost painful to read. I felt awkward and embarrassed for the author.

    I also agree that writing comedy, as a whole, isn't always easy. I tend to excell at it, but at the same time...I need a lot of work on how I write angst and drama. Likewise, I know several of you have said that you can write angst and drama easily, but struggle with comedy. We all have our strong and weak points in our writing.
    druscilla; imagine.:
    I like stories that are funny, but not so much in an "LOL" way.
    Where it's more, you start grinning because they're just casually funny things that are natural and happen everyday.
    Also agreed. Not everything has to be side-splittingly funny for the situation, as a whole, to earn a few laughs. Being able to relate to the funny situation at hand sometimes makes it even funnier.

    EDIT: Christ, I didn't realize I wrote that much. If you read that, give yourself a pat on the back, sheesh. :XD
    March 10th, 2009 at 08:30am
  • folie a dru.

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    Crackfics either have to be developed to a point where it makes sense even if it doesn't. Like, you can have the weirdest and least sensical reason for a girl to be running around screaming that she's queen of the gummy bears but if you have a reason and you develop it just enough, it will work.

    And . . . sometimes it depends on where you're posting the story.

    I have a friend that I call Haushinka. And she is an absolutely amazing writer. Drama, angst, all of it. But she writes the weirdest crack!fics ever. If you ever try to talk to her on MSN you'll understand why. But she posted them in a smaller community where people knew that she was really weird and spacey, so it was okay. Plus, like I said, she was a good writer so that helped.
    March 10th, 2009 at 08:32am
  • Jinxeh

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    ^ I used to write crack!fics a lot, too. There was something oddly amusing about writing Jimmy Urine climbing up a chandelier just so he could escape Sweeney Todd, who was trying to cut him up. And, if you post them where the majority of the people who will read it also know you, the author, that can work just fine. But, at least for me, a build-up is still needed to me to really laugh at "randomness." I admire the writing talents of anyone who can write truly random...randomness, and make it funny, but I don't think I've ever seen it.

    For example, the guy who writes and draws the webcomic "Ctrl+Alt+Del" has a character named Chef Brian, who appears every once in a while in strips of his own, and who is completely random. His strips are always just like this. And...I just don't find that funny. At all. Yet my friends who also read the comic find him hilarious, and most proclaim Chef Brian as their favorite character. So it is rather relative; what some might find hilarious might come off as trite and rather, "...Meh," to others.
    March 10th, 2009 at 08:39am
  • Baked Potato

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    Comedy is my favourite thing to write but it is most definitely the most difficult. The type of humor I use in a story really depends on the audience, especially if I write it for a friend because each has their own preference.
    I used to be really good at writing things that would make my friends laugh, but I think I forgot how to do that now.
    March 10th, 2009 at 10:37am
  • chrissie.

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    I can't write actual comedy. :XD
    I love reading it, though. In Love
    March 10th, 2009 at 11:14am
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    double.
    March 10th, 2009 at 11:15am
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    I've never tried writing comedy yet, as far as I can remember. Or will I try soon.
    It's just... hard, and I'm pretty sure I'll screw up, maybe not in the beginning, or not in the most of it, but there's no way I'm going to end up not screwing it. :XD
    And in the end I'll just feel ashamed of it. So... I'll stick to my status quo. :tehe:
    March 10th, 2009 at 11:26am
  • The Master

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    I adore writing my sort of comedy - a Douglas Adams, self-aware comedy. Word play, riduculous situations etc.
    March 10th, 2009 at 01:07pm
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    druscilla; imagine.:
    I like stories that are funny, but not so much in an "LOL" way.
    Where it's more, you start grinning because they're just casually funny things that are natural and happen everyday.
    Yeah same. :file:
    One thing I cannot stand, I mean DESPISE in stories, is when they're just stupid funny and so over the top it ends up not even being funny. Like, when it's super unrealistic and just...dumb. It really annoys me and I ended reading a paragraph or a chapter and not continuing :file:

    I like it when writers are talented enough to drop in a funny comment or something that just really make you smile or giggle, when it's just natural and unexpected it always best.
    March 10th, 2009 at 09:14pm
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    Comedy is not the easiest thing to write (as you all have kindly mentioned) but I have to admit that witty banter (which sometimes doesn't come up in stories) is one of my favorite types of comedy.

    I do have a question about the loudness of random truth being comedic. There are things that The Rev from Avenged sevenfold has said or sung that made the random list but also was super funny. Since I'm writing an avenged sevenfold fanfiction, wouldn't it be logical for the comedy to be majorly from The Rev's insane comments or actions?
    March 25th, 2009 at 02:03am
  • southpaw

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    Comedy is my native thing. It comes naturally to me, but as far as the type of humor goes, it usually ends up as poo-poo jokes and one liners rather than intelligent humor. Usually there'll be a character who makes a smartass remark and another, less quick-witted one go "...What?"
    April 26th, 2010 at 12:36am
  • peter quill.

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    I love a bit of comedy. Purely because I'm not a serious person so it just rolls off pretty easily, even if its not funny to the rest of the world.

    My problem is I always slip swearwords in, like excessively and it kind of ruins it Sad
    April 26th, 2010 at 12:39am
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    I think I mostly write dramedies (drama + comedy), or at any rate those are my favorite type of fiction to read or write. I think they give you the best of everything. They keep things in balance. Even in a straight up drama, I tend to have at least some comic relief because that balance is pretty important to me.
    April 26th, 2010 at 07:45am
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    drunk dru with a gun:
    Lately, I do a lot of "underlying comedy".
    That's what I call it.
    My stories aren't necessarily "comedies" but they do contain humor.
    It's very apparent in narration and conversations.
    It sort of . . . makes it all more real, I think.
    ^This.

    Although I don't do it very often. I'm only good for angst and drama and all that good stuff.
    Comedy is very hard for me to write. I have just one fic where there's comedy involved, Plaything and it's mostly mild. It felt natural to write it that way.
    It's not overdone, but I've been told it's rather amusing. I'd like to think it is too. -shrugs-
    I love reading well-done, subtle comedy. I just can't manage it myself. Nor can I manage well-written smut.
    April 27th, 2010 at 02:31am
  • Icamane Hatake

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    Jinxeh:
    The thing about comedy, is that a lot of people seem to think that randomness = comedy. And it can, but then a majority of those people also assume that writing randomness that's also funny is very easy - and it's not. If a character suddenly runs around screaming, "I AM THE MUGGLE QUEEN OF GUMMY BEARS," it's not very funny at all. (Unless we're all suddenly back in elementary school.)
    It's stories like that that make me ashamed to call myself a crackfic/comedy writer sometimes Facepalm
    I'll admit, comedy isn't that easy for a lot of people, but I'm apparently a very funny person. A lot of things I say in real life that are my total honest opinion make people laugh. I guess they just like the negative outlook...
    I've written a lot of comedy stories, but they're mostly one-shots. And every one one of my stories have some sort of humor in them, even if it's cynical. I think the trick is you can't try and cram it down your readers throats or over-use. You have to make a balance of serious and funny.
    As for inside jokes...I tend to make inside jokes between the characters that my readers know what they're talking about, they're never jokes between my friends and I. It also makes the jokes more realistic. I actually started an inside joke between my friends and I with Reading Between the Lines. Now anytime someone referances The Fairy Lord, we know exactly who we're talking about tehe
    One final thing: I really don't like how comedy tends to get a bad rep because there's so many stupid "random" stories that are supposed to be "funny." Again, it makes me ashamed to be a comedy writer...
    June 15th, 2010 at 05:28am
  • Roseh; believe

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    I have had a few attempts at writing comedy, but often my jokes (in writing and real life) seem slightly...forced.

    My best comedy is by far The Marauders Have MSN?, because it just works, in a way. And I'm quite proud of my Marauders as teens.
    June 15th, 2010 at 10:28pm