V For Virgin.

@ Ned Flanders
Well, I would have to disagree with you because I know firsthand that there is such a thing as meaningless sex.

Ned Flanders:

I agree with Valiente, adults can do whatever the heck they want, they're adults. Teens, however, is a bit of a different story. If you're sleeping around without any cares, it'll be more than just your problem, you'll involve your family in it.

How so? Who I had sex with in high school never affected my family.

@ Kurtni
What I meant is that if you get pregnant or an STD, it won't just be your own problem anymore, at some point you'll involve someone else. When I say careless I mean without protection.

@ Ned Flanders
"Without protection" and "without cares" mean pretty different things to me, so I understand what you're saying in that context. Though if I got pregnant or contracted HIV as a 20 year old adult right now, my family would still be affected. Turning 18 doesn't suddenly mean your life choices only affect you.

@ Kurtni
I meant care as in protection. I personally disagree with the concept of meaningless sex, but that's a different story.
It depends on the kind of life you have. For example, if at age 20 you have enough stability to keep a baby, it would have been different from someone like me, because I'm in college and that means my parents already spend a lot of money with my education, so keeping a child would be hard for me.
I was referring to teenage pregnancy, as in, high school girls. Sorry if I'm not expressing myself correctly, English is not my first language ^^'

@ Ned Flanders
Also, in some countries (not sure about yours), an unplanned pregnancy can lead to an abortion, not just the keeping of the hild.

@ dru is the man.
In Portugal, you can get an abortion. However, I still think getting an abortion because you weren't careful is not exactly something to take in lightly. But that's a totally new discussion.

@ Ned Flanders
Of course, but you were presenting it as if every 20 year old who has sex should be prepared to keep the baby, when that isn't the only solution so it shouldn't be presented that way.

Adults should be smart and use protection, but adults shouldn't feel the need to conform to someone else's sexual expectations of them.

@ dru is the man.
Oh I wasn't following on what exactly you meant. I can't say what I'd do in that situation, and thankfully I've never been through something like that.

In my opinion and experience, sex should be about love, but I have nothing against who has sex without love. It's your body, what you do with it in intimacy shouldn't be anyone else's problem, right?

@ Ned Flanders
Personally, I think the idea that sex is love creates a lot of problem and a lot of teens sleeping with their significant other because 'if you love me, you'll do it'. There's nothing wrong with only having sex with people you're in love with, but the whole sex/love thing makes me nervous. I think trust is much more important.

@ dru is the man.
Well, I personally never had anyone telling me "if you love me, you'll do it", at all. What I mean is that I can't think of sex with someone for whom I don't feel something. Of course that sex can be just sex, a lot of people do it for the pleasure but, to me, sex is about a connection. But that's just my opinion, ofc :)

Ned Flanders:

@ dru is the man.
Well, I personally never had anyone telling me "if you love me, you'll do it", at all. What I mean is that I can't think of sex with someone for whom I don't feel something. Of course that sex can be just sex, a lot of people do it for the pleasure but, to me, sex is about a connection. But that's just my opinion, ofc :)

I feel the same way, and personally, I don't think it's legitimate love if someone is trying to manipulate you into banging them.

@ Kurtni
Who said it had to be mutual love? A girl/boy can love a girl/boy without the other person loving them back.

If I love someone, their feelings do not change my feelings.

@ dru is the man.
I did I guess? I'm not saying everyone has to have sex with someone they're madly in love with who has reciprocal feelings, I was just talking about myself.

@ dru is the man.
That's a bit confusing. So I love a guy but he doesn't love me, yet he's trying to have sex with me, just for the sex. I should say yes because I love him, even though he doesn't love me back?
Sorry, I didn't quite catch it, I guess. :s

@ Kurtni
No, it's just I thought we were talking about the "I" statement then it turned into the 'well they wouldn't be saying that if they loved you' and I got confused.

@ Kurtni
When I said that there has to be feelings, I didn't mean undying love. You can just have this connection with someone that isn't eternal Romeo & Juliet love. If that actually makes sense.

@ Ned Flanders
No, I just meant that if you're in love with someone, you're in love with them regardless of whether they love you back. And girls who love a boy who may not love them, may have sex with him because they love him and 'sex is love'.

No one should ever have sex unless they want to.

@ dru is the man.
Ah, I get it now!

Yes I agree.
Sometimes loving someone doesn't mean you want to have sex with that person just like that. I totally agree with you on that, you should only have sex if you really want it and feel ready for it.

I lost my virginity at 13 years old.
I don't care how many jaws just dropped at that.
Yes, thirteen years old. That's grade seven.
Was it stupid? Yeah I can agree it's not the smartest thing I've done in my existence.
But do I regret it? Nope.
It didn't bother me at all to lose it, to me it was more like get rid of it.
I honestly can't tell anyone if I was ready for it or not, but I decided to do it.
I wasn't forced into it by anyone, but I did it.
And that's really the end of it, to some people that's super young and unacceptable but to me it's just a whatever type of thing.
I think that losing your virginity is something that only you yourself can decided. There is no perfect age or time to do it, and no one should force it on you.